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2009.12.10 18:28 "YCbCr", by Steve Mills
2009.12.10 19:19 "Re: YCbCr", by Joris Van Damme
2009.12.10 19:37 "Re: YCbCr", by Steve Mills
2009.12.10 20:21 "Re: YCbCr", by Antonio Scuri
2009.12.10 20:31 "Re: YCbCr", by Steve Mills
2009.12.11 16:15 "Re: YCbCr", by Antonio Scuri
2009.12.11 16:58 "Re: YCbCr", by Steve Mills
2009.12.11 18:37 "Re: YCbCr", by Antonio Scuri
2009.12.11 19:11 "Re: YCbCr", by Gene Amtower
2009.12.11 19:22 "Re: YCbCr", by Steve Mills
2009.12.11 20:04 "Re: YCbCr", by Gene Amtower
2009.12.12 02:37 "Re: YCbCr", by Antonio Scuri
2009.12.12 16:37 "Re: YCbCr", by Gene Amtower
2009.12.12 17:34 "Re: YCbCr", by Toby Thain
2009.12.12 18:19 "Re: YCbCr", by Bob Friesenhahn
2009.12.12 18:27 "Re: YCbCr", by Antonio Scuri
2009.12.10 20:32 "Re: YCbCr", by Joris Van Damme
2009.12.10 20:55 "Re: YCbCr", by Steve Mills
2009.12.10 22:31 "Re: YCbCr", by Steve Mills

2009.12.12 18:27 "Re: YCbCr", by Antonio Scuri

> So, you can store either RGB, YCbCr, or CMYK data in TIFF files.
> However, due to the variable conversion algorithms used for converting
> to/from CMYK or YCbCr, anything other than RGB is probably not likely
> to work outside of whatever application creates them.  Is that a
> correct statement?

  No, I said only for CMYK. YCbCr has a very precise conversion for RGB.

 
> Also, if a user employs the automatic conversion process to get from
> YCbCr to RGB, doesn't the wide variety of possible conversion matrices
> for this process make the automatic conversion somewhat inconsistent or
> even incorrect in some cases?  
> Does LibTiff implement the most common
> conversion matrix (if that's even clearly defined) for this automatic
> process, or is there some guess at a conversion matrix based on the
> data itself?

  Both no, for the same reason.


> It just seems to me that storing image data in anything other than RGB-
> based formats is not a good idea for most general usages and should
> only be employed if the images are used for internal program processing
> only.  Otherwise, the matrix employed to generate the YCbCr or CMYK
> format is not known to a reader of the file.

  As Toby explained, CMYK is used for publishing workflows. And the
  conversion is complicated. No it is not commonly used. 

  On the other hand YCbCr is widely used. Mostly because you can separate
  luminance and chrominance information, and compress them with different
  approaches. Almost all JPEG files are stored in this way (I mean *.jpg).

  So actually it depends on what your application does. Also depends on what
  file format/compression you choose. 

Best,
Scuri