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2008.08.29 22:53 "Some security fixes from RHEL", by Even Rouault
2008.08.30 02:08 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Tom Lane
2008.09.01 22:18 "Re: libtiff security", by Dmitry V Levin
2008.08.31 15:17 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Frank Warmerdam
2008.08.31 15:38 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.08.31 21:09 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Rogier Wolff
2008.08.31 21:21 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by <o.druemmer@callassoftware.com>
2008.08.31 21:51 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.08.31 22:08 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Lee Howard
2008.08.31 22:21 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.09.01 22:10 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Dmitry V Levin
2008.09.03 08:21 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Andrey Kiselev
2008.09.03 15:11 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.09.03 17:31 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by <ron@debian.org>
2008.09.03 17:48 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.08.31 21:52 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Toby Thain
2008.08.31 22:01 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.08.31 21:59 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Lee Howard
2008.08.31 22:17 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.09.01 06:29 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Rogier Wolff
2008.09.01 06:53 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Toby Thain
2008.09.01 03:12 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Frank Warmerdam
2008.09.01 15:52 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Lee Howard
2008.09.01 21:33 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Frank Warmerdam
2008.09.03 16:38 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Lee Howard
2008.09.03 17:07 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.09.03 17:20 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Lee Howard
2008.09.03 18:02 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.09.03 18:13 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Lee Howard
2008.09.03 18:43 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.09.03 20:47 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Edward Lam
2008.09.03 21:01 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Lee Howard
2008.09.03 18:32 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Frank Warmerdam
2008.09.03 19:04 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.09.03 19:32 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by <ron@debian.org>
2008.09.03 21:39 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Lee Howard
2008.09.03 21:59 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Even Rouault
2008.09.03 22:35 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by <ron@debian.org>
2008.09.03 23:31 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.09.04 07:47 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by <ron@debian.org>
2008.09.04 12:55 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Edward Lam
2008.09.06 01:20 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Jay Berkenbilt
2008.09.04 07:22 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Andrey Kiselev
2008.09.04 08:05 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Tom Lane
2008.09.04 08:52 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Andrey Kiselev
2008.09.04 20:06 "tiffsplit.c broken on Windows in trunk", by Edward Lam
2008.09.04 20:41 "Re: tiffsplit.c broken on Windows in trunk", by Toby Thain
2008.09.04 21:13 "Re: tiffsplit.c broken on Windows in trunk", by Edward Lam
2008.09.05 06:42 "Re: tiffsplit.c broken on Windows in trunk", by Andrey Kiselev
2008.09.03 17:16 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Frank Warmerdam
2008.09.04 07:45 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Andrey Kiselev
2008.09.01 22:30 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Dmitry V Levin
2008.09.03 08:05 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Andrey Kiselev
2008.09.01 05:11 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Tom Lane
2008.09.01 15:30 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Frank Warmerdam
2008.09.01 15:33 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.09.02 08:13 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Tom Lane
2008.09.02 08:24 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Tom Lane
2008.09.02 12:01 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Kai-uwe Behrmann
2008.09.02 15:49 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by <ron@debian.org>
2008.09.03 08:14 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Andrey Kiselev
2008.09.03 14:07 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Frank Warmerdam
2008.09.03 15:53 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Frank Warmerdam
2008.09.01 16:23 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by <ron@debian.org>
2008.09.01 18:00 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.09.01 22:04 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Dmitry V Levin
2008.09.01 15:40 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.09.01 18:19 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Rogier Wolff
2008.09.01 18:45 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.09.02 15:54 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by <ron@debian.org>
2008.09.02 16:39 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.09.03 08:03 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Andrey Kiselev

2008.09.04 07:22 "Re: Some security fixes from RHEL", by Andrey Kiselev

Lee,

On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 02:39:02PM -0700, Lee Howard wrote:
> Sure.  And as I understood it 3.9 was originally to be the same as 4.0
> but only without BigTIFF.

Well, "only BigTIFF" actually resulted in a huge piece of code being
rewritten, so 4.0 can not be considered the same as 3.9. Some parts of
library was not changed (e.g., codecs), but other changed a lot. For
example, the tag handling became more same in 4.0.

> When did 3.9 become "stable" and 4.0 become "development"?

 http://www.asmail.be/msg0054867082.html

But I think that the big part of discussion went off-list. The major
problem is that we don't have enough resources to maintain two libtiff
branches equally, so 3.9 considered to be "stable" now. It should only
incorporate important bugfixes, but no new features (unless someone
volunteers to support it).

> My point, however, is that there needs to be an active path for newly
> developed code to make it to public release in a regular and frequent
> way.

Well, it is simple, new features should go in 4.0. Are you still using
3.9 for your daily tasks? ;-)

> Library users who are happy with the library code in 3.8 don't need to
> go to 3.9, do they?

That depends. There was a hell of a thread just a day ago on the
security bugs topic, wasn't it?

> >The busy-work and development belongs on the 4.0 branch as I
> >understand it.
> 
> This is not what I have understood at all.  For example, JBIG support
> is in 3.9 where it wasn't in it in 3.8.

That was done before we split out the BigTIFF branch. After that point
we just trying to make 3.9 suitable for release.

> Does libtiff even have a stable branch?

Now it does.

> I understand, really, I do.  Isn't the 3.8 to 3.9 indicator clear
> enough to show that things are changing?

There are new features such as sane OldJPEG support, nice tiffcrop
utility and some other goodies, but they should not break the binary
compatibility. I did this mistake once and we should avoid it in the
future. Also I hope we will maintain soname a bit more accurate in 4.0.

Best regards,
Andrey

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Andrey V. Kiselev
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