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2000.10.05 00:20 "Old-style JPEG and HP 9100C Digital Sender", by Tim Bell
2000.10.05 03:39 "Re: Old-style JPEG and HP 9100C Digital Sender", by Niles Ritter
2000.10.05 19:43 "Re: Old-style JPEG and HP 9100C Digital Sender", by Rex Jolliff
2000.10.06 02:20 "Re: Old-style JPEG and HP 9100C Digital Sender", by Tom Lane
2000.10.06 04:44 "Re: Old-style JPEG and HP 9100C Digital Sender", by Raj Kumar S
2000.10.06 09:36 "Re: Old-style JPEG and HP 9100C Digital Sender", by Joris Van Damme
2000.10.06 13:50 "Re: Old-style JPEG and HP 9100C Digital Sender", by Frank Warmerdam
2000.10.06 13:31 "Re: Old-style JPEG and HP 9100C Digital Sender", by Ed Grissom
2000.10.06 14:21 "Re: Old-style JPEG and HP 9100C Digital Sender", by Martin Bailey
2000.10.06 14:44 "Re: Old-style JPEG and HP 9100C Digital Sender", by Ed Grissom
2000.10.06 15:04 "Re: Old-style JPEG and HP 9100C Digital Sender", by Martin Bailey
2000.10.06 15:07 "PDF is NOT proprietary!", by Leonard Rosenthol
2000.10.06 16:13 "Re: PDF is NOT proprietary!", by Ed Grissom
2000.10.06 16:32 "Re: PDF is NOT proprietary!", by Leonard Rosenthol
2000.10.06 16:35 "Re: PDF is NOT proprietary!", by Ed Grissom
2000.10.06 20:10 "Re: PDF is NOT proprietary!", by Bo Yang
2000.10.06 20:41 "Re: PDF is NOT proprietary!", by Ed Grissom
2000.10.06 21:35 "Re: PDF is NOT proprietary!", by Alex Cherepanov
2000.10.08 00:24 "Re: PDF is NOT proprietary!", by Leonard Rosenthol
2000.10.06 21:02 "Re: PDF is NOT proprietary!", by Larry Jones
2000.10.06 17:56 "Re: Old-style JPEG and HP 9100C Digital Sender", by Joris Van Damme
2000.10.06 10:36 "Re: Old-style JPEG and HP 9100C Digital Sender", by Martin Bailey
2000.10.07 06:03 "Re: Old-style JPEG and HP 9100C Digital Sender", by Joris Van Damme

2000.10.05 03:39 "Re: Old-style JPEG and HP 9100C Digital Sender", by Niles Ritter

Tim Bell wrote:
>
> We've got an HP 9100C Digital Sender (network connected scanner) and
> it seems to be producing Old-style JPEG TIFFs, which libtiff says it
> can't read.  (We're using Linux for this.)  I thought I'd check here
> before I sent a detailed bug report to HP tech support.
>
> Running tiffinfo on one of the files gives:
>
> [...]
>           Compression Scheme: Old-style JPEG

Tim,


At any cost, you have got to convince the Vendor to stop producing old
JPEG-TIFF, and to burn all copies of their source code and sew the
ground with salt.   It cannot be implemented, should not be implemented,
and is EVIL.

The original TIFF Tech note #2 on the proper implementation of JPEG
in TIFF (as opposed to Evil Bogus JPEG-in-TIFF of the 6.0 variety)
can still be found at:

    ftp://ftp.sgi.com/graphics/tiff/TTN2.draft.txt

which is also the location quoted on the "libtiff.org" webpage.  There
is simply no excuse for not knowing about this note, it has
been around since the mid 90's.

The  www.libtiff.org also has examples of what a valid
(for public consumption) JPEG-in-TIFF file should look like.
It has successfully been implemented using the libtiff
package combined with the libjpeg package, thanks to
the efforts of many people including Tom Lane and
others.

There is simply no excuse for promulgating evil files
around.  It may be compliant with the TIFF-6.0 spec,
but that portion of the spec is itself bad. Very bad.

  --Niles  (author, The Unofficial TIFF Web page)
                http://home.earthlink.net/~ritter/tiff