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2006.10.16 20:34 "Tag 346", by Ross Presser
2006.10.16 21:24 "Re: Tag 346", by Joris Van Damme
2006.10.16 21:47 "Re: Tag 346", by Ross Presser
2006.10.16 21:57 "Re: Tag 346", by Bob Friesenhahn
2006.10.16 22:50 "Re: Tag 346", by Chris Cox
2006.10.16 22:18 "Re: Tag 346", by Toby Thain
2006.10.17 01:38 "Re: Tag 346", by Joris Van Damme
2006.10.17 11:41 "Re: Tag 346", by Leonard Rosenthol
2006.10.17 12:24 "Re: Tag 346", by Toby Thain
2006.10.17 13:15 "Re: Tag 346", by Leonard Rosenthol
2006.10.17 13:19 "Re: Tag 346", by Leonard Rosenthol
2006.10.17 13:27 "Re: Tag 346", by Ross Presser
2006.10.17 13:53 "Re: Tag 346", by Leonard Rosenthol
2006.10.17 13:17 "Re: Tag 346", by Ross Presser
2006.10.18 10:20 "Re: Tag 346", by Gerben Vos
2006.10.17 19:36 "Re: Tag 346", by Chris Cox

2006.10.17 11:41 "Re: Tag 346", by Leonard Rosenthol

At 5:47 PM -0400 10/16/06, Ross Presser wrote:
>The reason I asked is slightly off topic for TIFF, in fact. As you
>probably know, the PDF spec does support Indexed images in any
>colorspace defined in the PDF.

	ALMOST any colorspace...You can't have indexed Indexed, 
indexed Pattern, indexed Separation or indexed DeviceN.


>In fact, the default profile for Adobe
>Distiller will automatically convert *all* images in the source to
>indexed images as long as the total color count is less than 256.

	PDF Enhancer (http://www.apago.com) will do the same thing. 
In addition, if the option is enabled, it will also perform 
quantization on RGB images with <1000 colors down to 256.


>But since there are apparently *zero* raster file formats that can
>contain indexed CMYK images,

	Photoshop supports indexed CMYK, IIRC.


>it's impractical to do any image manipulation on these bitmaps.

	Not at all...You just need an imaging library that supports 
indexed CMYK and can read a "blob"...GraphicMagick, for example, 
springs to mind.   You could also use Adobe's new open-source GIL. 
Or you could write your own.


>I am considering writing a custom tool that converts them to RGB
>palette on the fly, and back again.

	4->3->4 color conversion is a BAD IDEA!!   As the numbers 
demonstrate, you will LOSE information (even with ICC-based color 
conversion).


Leonard
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