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2008.02.06 10:01 "Why is TIFF/zip not a default option?", by Anders Sewerin Johansen
2008.02.06 10:34 "Re: Why is TIFF/zip not a default option?", by Andrey Kiselev
2008.02.06 11:05 "Re: Why is TIFF/zip not a default option?", by Anders Sewerin Johansen
2008.02.06 11:28 "Re: Why is TIFF/zip not a default option?", by Andy Cave
2008.02.06 11:46 "Re: Why is TIFF/zip not a default option?", by Andrey Kiselev
2008.02.06 16:36 "Re: Why is TIFF/zip not a default option?", by Bob Friesenhahn
2008.02.06 17:12 "Re: Why is TIFF/zip not a default option?", by Frank Warmerdam
2008.02.06 17:14 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 45, Issue 3", by Gary Mcgath
2008.02.07 17:23 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 45, Issue 3", by Gerben Vos

2008.02.06 11:28 "Re: Why is TIFF/zip not a default option?", by Andy Cave

Hi

LZW has no remaining patent issues (they've all expired). Given that, I 
think it's a better general choice then flate - mainly as it's much easier 
for anyone to implement (a few hours (for a simple implementation) vs days 
for flate). Although flate does get better compression and is supported by 
quite a lot of s/w, it's also slower.

Having said that, if your aim is for archiving, flate with the highest level 
compression does produce much more compressed files. Although slower, since 
you're archiving for posterity, do you care if it takes a little longer. 
Decompressing is not really any slower. I don't know if/how tifflib supports 
flate compression with the highest level though?

So I think you could choose either, or both.

Regards,

Andy.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anders Sewerin Johansen" <asjo@kb.dk>
To: <tiff@lists.maptools.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: [Tiff] Why is TIFF/zip not a default option?


Hi,

Well, the reason for my question is that as far as I have so far been able 
to determine the deflate option was not enabled by default, which I took to 
mean that the majority of the libtiff equiped systems in use weould as 
default not be able to handle tiff/deflate. If it turns out I was mistaken, 
well that's just great!

The reason for the question is that several parameters are relevant for 
picking a format for our purposes. Some are obvious to outsiders (size of 
final file, CPU requirements for rendering...), while others may not be 
(openness of format, availability of several open source renderes, patent 
issues). In particular the tiff/lzw format, while suitable on most counts 
(stable, well-known...) is discounted due to the patent issues past, present 
and future of the lzw compression algorithm/implementation. The tiff/zip 
format would not be discounted on the patent issue as far as I know, but 
might be discounted with regards to cross-platform usability, if the default 
Linux/UNIX system configuration did not allow for reading and writing it.

Can I conclude that most recent libtiff equiped systems (e.g. systems 
deployed or updated during the last five years) will support tiff/zip?

A



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