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2010.07.08 16:25 "strlcpy vs strncpy", by Bob Friesenhahn
2010.07.08 18:03 "Re: strlcpy vs strncpy", by Lee Howard
2010.07.08 18:06 "Re: strlcpy vs strncpy", by Olivier Paquet
2010.07.11 17:36 "Re: strlcpy vs strncpy", by Edward Lam
2010.07.12 19:30 "strncpy in tiffcrop", by Richard Nolde
2010.07.12 20:31 "Re: strncpy in tiffcrop", by Edward Lam
2010.07.10 11:04 "Re: strlcpy vs strncpy", by Albert Cahalan
2010.07.10 13:27 "Re: strlcpy vs strncpy", by Kevin Myers
2010.07.10 13:50 "Re: strlcpy vs strncpy", by Bob Friesenhahn
2010.07.11 07:34 "Re: strlcpy vs strncpy", by Albert Cahalan
2010.07.11 08:06 "Re: strlcpy vs strncpy", by Toby Thain
2010.07.11 14:35 "Re: strlcpy vs strncpy", by Bob Friesenhahn
2010.07.10 13:39 "Re: strlcpy vs strncpy", by Bob Friesenhahn
2010.07.11 08:18 "Re: strlcpy vs strncpy", by Albert Cahalan
2010.07.11 16:35 "Re: strlcpy vs strncpy", by Bob Friesenhahn
2010.07.12 17:34 "Re: strlcpy vs strncpy", by Dmitry V Levin
2010.07.12 18:13 "Re: strlcpy vs strncpy", by Bob Friesenhahn

2010.07.10 11:04 "Re: strlcpy vs strncpy", by Albert Cahalan

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Bob Friesenhahn
<bfriesen@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote:

> I see that libtiff is using strncpy() as a safer strcpy() and
> strncat() as a safer strcat().  Unfortunately, strncpy() does include
> a significant design flaw which causes it still to be insecure unless
> additional care is taken.  The problem occurs when the string to be
> copied exactly matches the buffer size, in which case the string will
> lack null termination.

That isn't a design flaw. You could argue that strncpy is
a badly chosen name perhaps. The intended use is for
character arrays, such as the one in wtmp and utmp files,
which are not really strings in the normal C sense. Note
how strncpy also zero-fills the remainder of the array; this
behavior only makes sense for the intended purpose.

So strncpy isn't intended to do what you likely want, but strlcpy
really does have a design flaw. It truncates the string. This
can cause a security problem. To deal with that you'd need
to check length and compare... but if you're going to do that
then you've already written as much code as you'd need to
write for doing things the standard and portable way: memcpy.
Yep, that's right, memcpy is in <string.h> for a reason.

> GraphicsMagick is using strlcpy() and strlcat() for secure string
> copies.  I will be happy to contribute versions that I wrote myself

Many decent programmers have botched reimplementations
of various str* and mem* functions. You might need two hands
to count the number of tries it took to get strncpy right in the
Linux kernel. Sun shipped a libc that got these functions wrong
when crossing a page boundry. Well-optimized code often has
failures with bytes 0x7f, 0x80, and/or 0xff.

You can expect a modern compiler and C library to cooperate
to provide a regression-tested implementation of str* and mem*
functions that takes full advantage of the hardware. (aware of
cache lines, aliasing issues, special-purpose instructions, etc.)
I strongly suggest using what the platform provides rather than
writing your own.