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2004.12.02 18:07 "Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Roland Rabien
2004.12.02 18:30 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Andrey Kiselev
2004.12.02 21:40 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Roland Rabien
2004.12.06 22:52 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Joris Van Damme
2004.12.07 02:08 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.12.07 02:53 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Joris Van Damme
2004.12.07 04:13 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.12.07 04:27 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Chris Cox
2004.12.07 09:11 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Joris Van Damme
2004.12.07 20:29 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Chris Cox
2004.12.07 20:51 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Joris Van Damme
2004.12.07 22:14 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Chris Cox
2004.12.07 09:12 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Joris Van Damme
2004.12.07 10:34 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Eric Vergnaud
2004.12.07 11:06 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Joris Van Damme
2004.12.07 17:06 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Eric Vergnaud
2004.12.07 17:16 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.12.07 20:45 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Joris Van Damme
2004.12.07 22:16 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Chris Cox
2004.12.07 22:26 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Eric Vergnaud
2004.12.07 21:06 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Gary Mcgath

2004.12.07 17:16 "Re: Having problems adding IPTC to a TIFF", by Bob Friesenhahn

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004, Eric VERGNAUD wrote:

> > 1. Tolerating bugs, for the sake of backward compatibility with bug compensating
> > software, only leads to validating the bug. Photoshop did that, according to
> > Chris, to compensate for the GraphicsMagic bug. Bob, building from GraphicsMagic
> > rather then reading a spec, next tried to validate the GraphicsMagic behaviour
> > earlier saying that Photoshop did it too. Other software, building on LibTiff,
> > will do it too...

Photoshop 3.0 (around the time the abberant behavior is documented to 
first be introduced) far pre-dates GraphicsMagick.  Photoshop did it 
to be compatable with some other existing software.  I don't think 
that Adobe cares much about GraphicsMagick. 
ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick behave like Photoshop since Photoshop is 
the industry's de-facto standard.

> > 4. There's some value in truth. Correcting a mistake is a good thing, even if
> > it does come at some cost.

This mistake has existed since maybe 1992.  Mistakes which have 
existed for a very long time are difficult to correct later.

> Well maybe the first thing to do would be to see what Photoshop IS doing.
> Since Adobe is in charge of the TIFF specs, if they're writing IPTC as a
> LONG array, then THAT IS the spec, even if it's conceptually incorrect. If
> they're writing UNDEFINED of whatever, then libtiff should definitely
> follow.

Adobe did not invent IPTC in TIFF.  However, as was previously 
mentioned, Photoshop is writing IPTC as a LONG array, although it will 
accept both forms.

Bob
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