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2007.01.17 02:25 "Elevation Data", by Craig Bruce
2007.01.17 02:57 "Re: Elevation Data", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.01.17 08:07 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 15:24 "Re: Elevation Data", by Ed Grissom
2007.01.17 15:55 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 16:03 "Re: Elevation Data", by Ed Grissom
2007.01.17 16:20 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 16:52 "Re: Elevation Data", by Ed Grissom
2007.01.17 17:20 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 19:26 "Re: Elevation Data", by Ed Grissom
2007.01.17 20:22 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 20:52 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 21:00 "Re: Elevation Data", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.01.17 21:58 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 22:18 "Re: Elevation Data", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.01.18 11:09 "Re: Elevation Data", by Andrey Kiselev
2007.01.17 20:00 "Re: Elevation Data", by Craig Bruce
2007.01.17 17:01 "Re: Elevation Data", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.01.17 18:35 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 21:08 "Re: Elevation Data", by Frank Warmerdam
2007.01.17 19:27 "Re: Elevation Data", by Frank Warmerdam
2007.01.17 16:08 "Re: Elevation Data", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.01.17 16:30 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 19:03 "Re: Elevation Data", by Frank Warmerdam
2007.01.17 17:28 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 21:18 "Re: Elevation Data", by Frank Warmerdam
2007.01.17 16:51 "Re: Elevation Data", by Gerben Vos
2007.01.17 18:03 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 16:27 "Re: Elevation Data", by Frank Warmerdam
2007.01.17 19:00 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 21:51 "Re: Elevation Data", by Frank Warmerdam
2007.01.17 03:35 "Re: Elevation Data", by Frank Warmerdam
2007.01.17 08:00 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 20:07 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme

2007.01.17 15:55 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme

Ed,

Grissom, Ed wrote:
> > > It seems difficult to make a completely interoperable image using
> > > floating-point samples.  I have heard that some software which
> > > supports floating-point TIFF checks all the sample values in
> > > order to best understand how it should be displayed (assuming it
> > > can be reasonably displayed at all).
> >
> > In practice, you are correct. There's just not much floating point
> > image data written, and the few that do write it aren't always
> > concerned with interchange.
> >
> > But I do believe there is a consensus emerging, in that the
> > description in my previous message does apply to the biggest part
> > of what is 'out there', and the others have all kinds of ranges and
> > as such don't qualify to derive a consensus from.
>
> What, exactly, is the problem with using SMinSampleValue and
> SMaxSampleValue for this ?

Just convention, historical use and especially lack of use of that tag,
arising from the fact that the specification clearly says it's worth
nothing really except in some statistical sense (and who knows what that
might mean - iow, it means nothing).

If the spec were clear and binding on this, maybe things would have been
different. But it isn't.

In any case, please don't take any opinion I've expressed on this issue
as written in stone. I'm merely trying to see what makes sense on the
one hand, and on the other is de facto supported by at least some bigger
part of what I have gathered as test images from different sources over
the years.

It makes sense for floating point grayscale data, or any data under that
Photometric tag, to assume the range of 0.0 to 1.0, simply because there
is no other intrinsic range on this. For example, 0.0 to 255.0, makes no
sense, unless there is something intrinsic in the concept of grayscale
that binds it to 8 bit ranges in particular. Amongst the few testfiles I
have, some part applies this range 0.0 to 1.0, and others do all kinds
of ranges. I do that 0.0 to 1.0 range myself in my proprietary code. And
I've seen little or virtually no use of (S)MinSampleValue and
(S)MaxSampleValue sofar, and don't use it myself either.

In need to stress again, I mean nothing here as written in stone, I'm
just trying to see a common denominator in de facto usage that seems to
make some sense.


Best regards,


Joris Van Damme
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