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2007.01.17 02:25 "Elevation Data", by Craig Bruce
2007.01.17 02:57 "Re: Elevation Data", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.01.17 08:07 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 15:24 "Re: Elevation Data", by Ed Grissom
2007.01.17 15:55 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 16:03 "Re: Elevation Data", by Ed Grissom
2007.01.17 16:20 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 16:52 "Re: Elevation Data", by Ed Grissom
2007.01.17 17:20 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 19:26 "Re: Elevation Data", by Ed Grissom
2007.01.17 20:22 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 20:52 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 21:00 "Re: Elevation Data", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.01.17 21:58 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 22:18 "Re: Elevation Data", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.01.18 11:09 "Re: Elevation Data", by Andrey Kiselev
2007.01.17 20:00 "Re: Elevation Data", by Craig Bruce
2007.01.17 17:01 "Re: Elevation Data", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.01.17 18:35 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 21:08 "Re: Elevation Data", by Frank Warmerdam
2007.01.17 19:27 "Re: Elevation Data", by Frank Warmerdam
2007.01.17 16:08 "Re: Elevation Data", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.01.17 16:30 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 19:03 "Re: Elevation Data", by Frank Warmerdam
2007.01.17 17:28 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 21:18 "Re: Elevation Data", by Frank Warmerdam
2007.01.17 16:51 "Re: Elevation Data", by Gerben Vos
2007.01.17 18:03 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 16:27 "Re: Elevation Data", by Frank Warmerdam
2007.01.17 19:00 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 21:51 "Re: Elevation Data", by Frank Warmerdam
2007.01.17 03:35 "Re: Elevation Data", by Frank Warmerdam
2007.01.17 08:00 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme
2007.01.17 20:07 "Re: Elevation Data", by Joris Van Damme

2007.01.17 16:52 "Re: Elevation Data", by Ed Grissom

In a previous message, Joris said:
>
> Though, still, have you seen many actual use of these tags in the
> implied sense? If you've test images that do use them this way, I'd be
> very grateful for a copy. 

No, unfortunately, in the GIS/RemoteSensing community, we are all just
standing on the sidelines waiting for someone else to go first. 

I have some 32bit floating point data that I am not allowed to share,
but it does not use any of the min/max tags.   I do not know what
software was used to create it either. 

> In any case, when it comes to a recommendation for writers, would you
> agree that recommending them to stick with the 'intrinsic' range of the
> samples, as I explained it, is best and most likely to lead to good
> interchange (as far as there is interchange of floating point image
> data, at all)?

I don't mind such a recommendation as long as folks don't think they
_have_ to transform their data.  

We will rarely see a 0.0 to 1.0 range on elevation data.  Typically,
elevation data will be stored in either feet or meters and will be a
floating point number within a limited range (for instance, the (USA)
State of Tennessee should have no elevations below 50ft, nor above
7000ft).   I would want to store this _as_collected_ and put the real
min and max in the SMin and SMax values.  I don't want to scale and
descale the data to a 0.0 to 1.0 range.  Especially since there is no
STANDARD way of storing the scale and bias in an approved tag. 

When using meters as a unit, most elevation data for earth would fall
between +/-10,000.
When using feet as a unit, most elevation data for earth would fall
between +/-30,000.


If the data does not have a "measured in the real world" interpretation,
then a 0.0 to 1.0 range makes more sense as a default way to represent
it.



We currently are using Min/Max as a valid range (if they are present and
make sense) in violation of the spec for 16 bit data.   I had not looked
at the spec for SMin/SMax closely before today, but I am going to start
using these in preference to Min/Max, since they do appear to do what I
want. 

Anyone else want to come along ? 

 
 


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ed grissom
ed.grissom@intergraph.com