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2009.04.27 19:49 "Question regarding unassociated alpha", by Amir Ebrahimi
2009.04.27 20:00 "Re: Question regarding unassociated alpha", by Chris Cox
2009.04.27 20:03 "Re: Question regarding unassociated alpha", by Amir Ebrahimi
2009.04.27 20:07 "Re: Question regarding unassociated alpha", by Chris Cox
2009.04.27 20:26 "Re: Question regarding unassociated alpha", by Edward Lam
2009.04.27 20:28 "Re: Question regarding unassociated alpha", by Edward Lam
2009.04.27 20:32 "Re: Question regarding unassociated alpha", by Amir Ebrahimi
2009.04.27 20:45 "Re: Question regarding unassociated alpha", by Edward Lam
2009.04.27 20:49 "Re: Question regarding unassociated alpha", by Edward Lam
2009.04.27 20:54 "Re: Question regarding unassociated alpha", by Amir Ebrahimi
2009.04.27 21:22 "Re: Question regarding unassociated alpha", by Bob Friesenhahn
2009.04.27 21:14 "Re: Question regarding unassociated alpha", by Daniel Mccoy
2009.04.27 21:33 "Re: Question regarding unassociated alpha", by Amir Ebrahimi
2009.04.28 20:37 "Re: Question regarding unassociated alpha", by Chris Cox
2009.04.28 22:12 "Re: Question regarding unassociated alpha", by Daniel Mccoy
2009.04.29 03:37 "Re: Question regarding unassociated alpha", by Bob Friesenhahn

2009.04.27 20:26 "Re: Question regarding unassociated alpha", by Edward Lam

 > Probably a bug.

This code only gets used in the high-level libtiff TIFFReadRGBAImage() 
interfaces. Given that it's supposed to do all sorts of conversions for 
you, I think it's semantically supposed to always return pre-multiplied 
alpha images. Reading the code, it leaves the RGB components alone when 
reading an associated alpha tiff, and multiplies in the alpha for 
unassociated alpha tiff files.

Given that this code was originally developed on SGIs, the norm back 
then was probably to use premultiplied alpha. ie. influenced by Duff's 
Compositing Digital Images paper.

http://keithp.com/~keithp/porterduff/p253-porter.pdf

Regards,
-Edward

Chris Cox wrote:
> Probably a bug.  
> Lots of people get alpha channels confused with transparency (associated
> alpha), especially in the 3D and video world.  They forget that you can
> have alpha channels that are not transparency(associated) and you can have
> more than 1 alpha channel in a single file.
> 
> Chris
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Amir Ebrahimi [amir@unity3d.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:03 PM
> To: Chris Cox
> Cc: tiff@lists.maptools.org
> Subject: Re: [Tiff] Question regarding unassociated alpha
> 
> On Apr 27, 2009, at 1:00 PM, Chris Cox wrote:
> 
>> Unassociated alpha should never be premultiplied - it is not
>> associated with the color channels.
>> Only assoicated alpha should be premultiplied.
>>
>> Chris
> 
> 
> I agree. Why is libtiff doing this?
> 
> :: Amir Ebrahimi ::
> Developer @ Unity Technologies
> www.unity3d.com
> 
> 
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