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2007.07.04 16:56 "BigTIFF extension", by Kemp Watson
2007.07.04 17:35 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Andrew Brooks
2007.07.04 18:13 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by John Aldridge
2007.07.04 18:51 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Toby Thain
2007.07.05 10:27 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Andrey Kiselev
2007.07.04 18:25 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Phil Harvey
2007.07.04 18:52 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Toby Thain
2007.07.04 19:59 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Phil Harvey
2007.07.04 21:23 "BigTIFF extension", by <kemp@extelligence.net>
2007.07.04 21:36 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Toby Thain
2007.07.05 05:08 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.04 22:11 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Stephen Carlsen
2007.07.05 02:41 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 04:19 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Kemp Watson
2007.07.05 04:54 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Stephen Carlsen
2007.07.05 15:54 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Toby Thain
2007.07.05 16:18 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 16:51 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Andrew Brooks
2007.07.04 20:52 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.04 21:04 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Toby Thain
2007.07.05 05:07 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 10:06 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by John Aldridge
2007.07.05 13:23 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12", by Gary Mcgath
2007.07.05 13:56 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 14:14 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12", by Gary Mcgath
2007.07.05 14:39 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 21:04 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12", by Chris Cox
2007.07.05 21:38 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 22:02 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12", by Toby Thain
2007.07.05 15:26 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12", by Andrey Kiselev
2007.07.05 16:23 "Re: BigTIFF", by Gary Mcgath
2007.07.05 16:54 "Re: BigTIFF", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 18:51 "Re: BigTIFF", by Craig Bruce
2007.07.05 20:30 "Re: BigTIFF", by Gary Mcgath
2007.07.05 21:03 "Re: BigTIFF", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 20:14 "Re: BigTIFF", by Michael Wolf
2007.07.05 08:09 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Andy Cave
2007.07.05 13:40 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 21:00 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Chris Cox
2007.07.05 21:19 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 22:13 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.07.06 12:36 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Gary Mcgath
2007.07.09 14:10 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.09 15:11 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Toby Thain
2007.07.09 16:11 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Stephen Carlsen
2007.07.09 16:21 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Andy Cave
2007.07.09 16:25 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Gary Mcgath
2007.07.09 16:35 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Toby Thain
2007.07.09 18:36 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Phil Harvey
2007.07.05 16:26 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 18:56 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Toby Thain
2007.07.04 19:17 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Frank Warmerdam
2007.07.05 20:31 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Chris Cox
2007.07.04 19:13 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.07.05 16:32 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Kemp Watson
2007.07.05 18:10 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme

2007.07.05 04:19 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Kemp Watson

I fully agree with Joris. Fact is, TIFF readers rarely support all of TIFF
possibilities - it's already a complex
format, and this is simply yet another extension. The version number is a
convenience, and compared with the vast array
of sporadically supported features in v.42, it has next to no meaning. Not
saying I agree with that, but it's the way it
is - _any_ TIFF reader has to iterate over quite a number of tags to
determine whether it's capable of handling a
particular file - I fail to see how this is in _any_ way different.

In short, choosing ".tif" in a dialog says absolutely nothing about the
readability of a TIFF file.

Kemp Watson


-----Original Message-----
From: Joris [mailto:joris.at.lebbeke@skynet.be]
Sent: July 4, 2007 10:42 PM
To: kemp@extelligence.net; Stephen Carlsen
Cc: tiff@lists.maptools.org
Subject: Re: [Tiff] BigTIFF extension


Stephen,

Stephen Carlsen wrote:
> "Because, for the first time in the 21 year history of TIFF, the
> structure itself has changed, and, accordingly, the 'version number'
> has changed from 42 to 43. (The 'version number' has, of course, been
> 42 since the very beginning of TIFF.) This breaks all existing TIFF
> readers."

The exact same thing applies to the coming of tiles in TIFF. It wasn't the
structure itself that had changed at that time, but it was some of the
extremely vital tags, which resulted in the same. It broke all existing TIFF
readers. Your reasoning would have applied back then, too, and we'd be
forced to use 'tf3' as an extension right now because 'tf2' would have been
taken for tiled TIFF. No, actually, we would be forced to use 'tf3' for
striped BigTIFF and 'tf4' for tiled BigTIFF, probably.

Put things to this extreme, and you can end up encoding all information in
the extension. That's not a good thing to do. Put the exact information
where it belongs, not more and not less, and don't code anything twice. The
extension is for marking the file format, and that's TIFF in both
ClassicTIFF and BigTIFF version. The version number, in turn, marks the
version. That's just good, and truthfull information encoding management.


Best regards,

Joris Van Damme
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