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2004.10.01 07:22 "BigTIFF extension issue", by Joris Van Damme
2004.10.01 16:41 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Ian Ameline
2004.10.01 16:53 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Frank Warmerdam
2004.10.01 17:01 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Joris Van Damme
2004.10.01 17:19 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Steve Carlsen
2004.10.01 17:27 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Chris Losinger
2004.10.01 17:48 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.10.01 17:48 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Joris Van Damme
2004.10.01 17:50 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Frank Warmerdam
2004.10.01 18:03 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Chris Losinger
2004.10.01 22:22 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Chris Cox
2004.10.02 01:21 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Joris Van Damme
2004.10.02 01:45 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.10.02 03:19 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Joris Van Damme
2004.10.02 10:20 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Andy Cave
2004.10.03 15:59 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.10.04 08:53 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Andy Cave
2004.10.04 11:56 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Joris Van Damme
2004.10.02 03:43 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Chris Cox
2004.10.02 04:10 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Joris Van Damme
2004.10.02 04:41 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.10.02 04:53 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Chris Cox
2004.10.02 10:28 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Andy Cave
2004.10.03 00:39 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Chris Cox
2004.10.04 08:34 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Andy Cave
2004.10.04 14:02 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.10.04 14:21 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Joris Van Damme
2004.10.04 14:57 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Andy Cave
2004.10.04 23:11 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Chris Cox
2004.10.05 08:43 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Andy Cave
2004.10.05 13:27 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Joris Van Damme
2004.10.04 11:29 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Rob Tillaart
2004.10.04 14:54 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.10.04 15:04 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Andy Cave
2004.10.04 15:23 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Joris Van Damme
2004.10.04 15:43 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.10.04 15:54 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Joris Van Damme
2004.10.04 16:50 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Steve Carlsen
2004.10.04 18:20 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Joris Van Damme
2004.10.04 18:30 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Bill Bither
2004.10.04 18:36 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.10.04 18:46 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Joris Van Damme
2004.10.04 18:59 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Andy Cave
2004.10.05 14:41 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Fernando Loygorri
2004.10.04 18:49 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Andy Cave
2004.10.04 19:00 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Bob Friesenhahn

2004.10.03 15:59 "Re: BigTIFF extension issue", by Bob Friesenhahn

On Sat, 2 Oct 2004, Andy Cave wrote:
>
> I don't think you can use the argument that no existing standard TIFF reader 
> can read BigTIFF. The case of tiled tiff vs previous tiff is one example, but 
> perhaps not a good one. So, take PostScript or PDF as perhaps a better 
> example. We had PS Level 1, then Level 2 then Level 3. We had PDF 1.0, then 
> 1.2, then 1.3, then 1.4. I think everyone would agree that there was no new 
> file format. But no laserprinter that was Level 1 could print a Level 2 file. 
> In this case one would argue that the file format was the same, but the 
> commands/operators were different.

The file formats were clearly different.  The base format provided a 
means to identify the format "version" or "level".  A laser printer 
which was Level 1 can print a "Level 2" file as long as the "Level 2" 
file is constrained to using Level 1 features.

Do not confuse file structure with format.  Format is a very precise 
thing.  Structure implies a way of doing things which may be similar 
across multiple formats.

> If there is a tag in there indicating it's big tiff, apps can very soon rev 
> to support this and give a warning. People have to upgrade their apps 
> periodically, as older apps don't even run on later OSs. So within a few 
> years all (most) the apps people use will deal with big tiff .tif[i] file 
> correctly. And big tiff files will only be common in general open use (as 
> opposed to closed loop systems) in a while anyway.

I am quite happy with using the `xv' program (include includes a copy 
of libtiff).  This program stopped being developed in 1993 yet it 
continues to work just fine.  The failure for applications to continue 
working is an artifact of certain operating systems which were either 
poorly designed in the first place, or for which forcing continued 
application upgrades and chaos leads to more wealth for the OS vendor.

Bob
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