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2004.01.14 17:14 "http://www.libtiff.org/", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.01.14 17:46 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme
2004.01.14 18:45 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Frank Warmerdam
2004.01.14 19:11 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by David Burken
2004.01.14 20:55 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Andrey Kiselev
2004.01.14 21:33 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme
2004.01.14 22:29 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Andrey Kiselev
2004.01.14 19:22 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.01.14 21:04 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Andrey Kiselev
2004.01.14 22:06 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Marco Schmidt
2004.01.14 22:40 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme
2004.01.14 22:57 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Marco Schmidt
2004.01.14 23:16 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme
2004.01.14 23:22 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.01.14 23:39 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme
2004.01.14 23:47 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.01.14 23:05 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by <karron@casi.net>
2004.01.14 23:57 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Chris Cox
2004.01.15 00:11 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.01.15 11:37 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Mike Williams
2004.01.15 12:32 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Mike Williams
2004.01.15 13:46 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme
2004.01.15 15:55 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Mike Williams
2004.01.15 16:10 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.01.15 16:37 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Mike Williams
2004.01.15 17:02 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.01.15 17:00 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme
2004.01.15 18:06 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Frank Warmerdam
2004.01.15 21:17 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme
2004.01.15 22:25 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Richard Eckles
2004.01.15 22:50 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Chris Losinger
2004.01.15 23:00 "Don't advertise your willingness to contribute...", by Peter Smith
2004.01.16 08:26 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Rob Tillaart
2004.01.16 16:02 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.01.15 17:32 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by David Burken
2004.01.15 15:40 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme

2004.01.15 15:55 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Mike Williams

On 15 Jan 2004 at 14:46, Joris wrote:

> I must say I'm astonished that it's even possible to hijack a site this way,

He seems to run a business involved in trading domain names.  While 
he is the current registrant, was he the person who hijacked the 
domain?  Did someone else do the hijacking and then just sell it on 
to Markus?  What was the exact sequence of events when the domain 
registration was lost?

> for this reason. Do I understand correctly that he
> - took the site simply for putting some links on it? Presumably so as to
> increase Google scores and such too?

In part, at least for his own domains and his business of trading 
them.  My guess he will happily sell it on when someone will pay 
enough.

> - is making money by having people 'donate to LibTiff', purely for his own
> private business?

It would seem so - looking at the html the payment looks to go 
webmaster@dopromo.com which is his main domain.  (Interestingly, 
dopromo.com shows gif.org is up for sale for 12,000 euro but no sign 
of libtiff being for sale - yet).

> I'm no longer convinced we should only regain what's ours. This man is
> commiting crime and fraud, while making a mockery of all open data format,
> open source and on-line community spirit. He should be reported and sued. Is
> there a computer crime department in the German police? I know Belgium has
> such a department, and we're neighbours, so it's not unlikely.
>
> I still believe making noise is the right way. Volume may matter more then
> individual efficienty. Andrey, how about it? I'm sure if you ask we're all
> willing to massively post complaints about abuse to his ISP, German computer
> crime police if it exists, the organisations this man is a member in, etc...
> Anyone related basically, up to and including his parents, wife and children
> if we can find them. That should be a nice start.

Posting something to slashdot.org may be an interesting starting 
point - the famous slashdot effect may make him sit up and notice.

Also, the site is hosted by Network Operations Center Inc. in the 
States, but it appears to be SPAM hoster.  I imagine they are pretty 
immune to complaints.

> Willem van Oranje once said that it is not necessary to expect to win in
> order to fight. Some things are so important that they you owe it to
> yourself to fight, no matter what outcome you expect and no matter what
> degree of efficienty your fighting actions have. I still think we ought te
> be ashamed of ourselves if we simply let this go by, this is a matter of
> principal.

TTFN

Mike
-- 
It takes about ten years to get used to how old you are.