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2004.01.14 17:14 "http://www.libtiff.org/", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.01.14 17:46 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme
2004.01.14 18:45 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Frank Warmerdam
2004.01.14 19:11 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by David Burken
2004.01.14 20:55 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Andrey Kiselev
2004.01.14 21:33 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme
2004.01.14 22:29 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Andrey Kiselev
2004.01.14 19:22 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.01.14 21:04 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Andrey Kiselev
2004.01.14 22:06 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Marco Schmidt
2004.01.14 22:40 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme
2004.01.14 22:57 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Marco Schmidt
2004.01.14 23:16 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme
2004.01.14 23:22 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.01.14 23:39 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme
2004.01.14 23:47 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.01.14 23:05 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by <karron@casi.net>
2004.01.14 23:57 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Chris Cox
2004.01.15 00:11 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.01.15 11:37 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Mike Williams
2004.01.15 12:32 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Mike Williams
2004.01.15 13:46 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme
2004.01.15 15:55 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Mike Williams
2004.01.15 16:10 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.01.15 16:37 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Mike Williams
2004.01.15 17:02 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.01.15 17:00 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme
2004.01.15 18:06 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Frank Warmerdam
2004.01.15 21:17 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme
2004.01.15 22:25 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Richard Eckles
2004.01.15 22:50 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Chris Losinger
2004.01.15 23:00 "Don't advertise your willingness to contribute...", by Peter Smith
2004.01.16 08:26 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Rob Tillaart
2004.01.16 16:02 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Bob Friesenhahn
2004.01.15 17:32 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by David Burken
2004.01.15 15:40 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Joris Van Damme

2004.01.15 16:37 "Re: http://www.libtiff.org/", by Mike Williams

On 15 Jan 2004 at 10:10, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Mike Williams wrote:
> 
> > What was the exact sequence of events when the domain
> > registration was lost?
> 
> The way I heard it, the company which actually paid for the
> libtiff.org registration allowed the domain to lapse.  The domain was
> put in a temporary "holding" state. The maintainers of libtiff were
> unable to acquire the domain while it was in the "holding" state and
> had no leverage to retrieve it.  Apparently the domains are given out
> in a "first dibs" fashion since it seems that this other company
> snatched it up as soon as it came out of the "holding" state.  More
> than likely they have advance registrations set up for lots of
> interesting domain names.

Unless someone was at fault during the time it was in the "holding 
state", I doubt there is much that can be done, but IANAL.

> Obviously the company used predatory tactics since they immediately
> populated libtiff.org with the original material.

But this is par for the course it seems these days.  It is quite 
enlightening going back through a bookmark list from 3 or 4 years ago 
and seeing how many domains have disappeared and been picked up by 
domain marketeers.

A quick google shows around 74,000 hits for libtiff, so the site is 
potentially very lucrative.  Unfortunately this could suffocate 
libtiff.  If he is forced to remove the copy of the site contents 
then libtiff quickly loses an obvious presence on the web.

It might be best to move over to sourceforge as the next obvious 
place to look for open source software - that would give a new web 
address to be included in files which in time will become the first 
round of hits returned by search engines.  Then whoever ends up with 
libtiff.org should end up with dwindling hits and in a year or two 
will let it lapse (or go for something someone feels comfortable 
coughing up for to hand over to the maintainers) and can be 
redirected to sourceforge.

TTFN

Mike
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