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2007.07.04 16:56 "BigTIFF extension", by Kemp Watson
2007.07.04 17:35 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Andrew Brooks
2007.07.04 18:13 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by John Aldridge
2007.07.04 18:51 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Toby Thain
2007.07.05 10:27 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Andrey Kiselev
2007.07.04 18:25 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Phil Harvey
2007.07.04 18:52 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Toby Thain
2007.07.04 19:59 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Phil Harvey
2007.07.04 21:23 "BigTIFF extension", by <kemp@extelligence.net>
2007.07.04 21:36 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Toby Thain
2007.07.05 05:08 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.04 22:11 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Stephen Carlsen
2007.07.05 02:41 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 04:19 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Kemp Watson
2007.07.05 04:54 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Stephen Carlsen
2007.07.05 15:54 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Toby Thain
2007.07.05 16:18 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 16:51 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Andrew Brooks
2007.07.04 20:52 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.04 21:04 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Toby Thain
2007.07.05 05:07 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 10:06 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by John Aldridge
2007.07.05 13:23 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12", by Gary Mcgath
2007.07.05 13:56 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 14:14 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12", by Gary Mcgath
2007.07.05 14:39 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 21:04 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12", by Chris Cox
2007.07.05 21:38 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 22:02 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12", by Toby Thain
2007.07.05 15:26 "Re: Tiff Digest, Vol 38, Issue 12", by Andrey Kiselev
2007.07.05 16:23 "Re: BigTIFF", by Gary Mcgath
2007.07.05 16:54 "Re: BigTIFF", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 18:51 "Re: BigTIFF", by Craig Bruce
2007.07.05 20:30 "Re: BigTIFF", by Gary Mcgath
2007.07.05 21:03 "Re: BigTIFF", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 20:14 "Re: BigTIFF", by Michael Wolf
2007.07.05 08:09 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Andy Cave
2007.07.05 13:40 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 21:00 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Chris Cox
2007.07.05 21:19 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 22:13 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.07.06 12:36 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Gary Mcgath
2007.07.09 14:10 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.09 15:11 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Toby Thain
2007.07.09 16:11 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Stephen Carlsen
2007.07.09 16:21 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Andy Cave
2007.07.09 16:25 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Gary Mcgath
2007.07.09 16:35 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Toby Thain
2007.07.09 18:36 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Phil Harvey
2007.07.05 16:26 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 18:56 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Toby Thain
2007.07.04 19:17 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Frank Warmerdam
2007.07.05 20:31 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Chris Cox
2007.07.04 19:13 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.07.05 16:32 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Kemp Watson
2007.07.05 18:10 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme

2007.07.05 13:40 "Re: BigTIFF extension", by Joris Van Damme

Andy,

Andy Cave wrote:
> Actually, I read it a little differently to you - I think there _is_
> general agreement to use ".tif", that is to use the same extension.
>
> I am thereore now proposing that we officially adopt ".tif" as the
> big tiff extension. To pass this vote, the four people on the
> committee need to agree:
> 1. Bob Friesenhahn.
> 2. Joris.
> 3. Frank Warmerdam.
> 4. Chris Cox.
>
> [I'm not saying anyone else isn't important, so please no-one get
> upset!]
> If all those four people can respond that they are in agreement, you
> (Joris) can then update your web site to say it's official.

It doesn't work that way. For one, I'm pretty sure all four of these don't 
want to get promoted  to committee. Secondly, there's people much deserving 
of a place in that list, but less visible most of the time, like Andrey and 
Stephen. Thirdly, even if people here would agree on a committee, just 
because we say 'the four people on the committee say yea, so it's official', 
doesn't make it so, as in reality the file format is owned by Adobe and not 
any alien committee... But it doesn't enjoy Adobe's priority, at most we see 
Chris making a statement from time to time, but though we respect him a lot 
it's not clear if he fully represents the owner, so that's where the real 
problem lies.

Well, actually, I'm a strong believer that file formats ought to be regarded 
property of a large community pyramid of programmers and users. They're 'out 
there', and that's consistent with the fact that many formats that aren't 
publically documented or suffer licencing issues usually fail to penetrate 
the market, especially in imaging. There's no firm 'top' in TIFF's owning 
'programmer and user community pyramid', so we'll have to wait a bit and see 
how the true owners settle on extension in the end instead of having more 
firm guidance right from the start. My bet is that people will opt for 
'.tif', as the layer of application programmers will stumble upon many of 
the very practical points I laid out before and also they'll mostly realize 
that BigTIFF is TIFF. Indeed, as you say, there does seem to be some degree 
of agreement to use '.tif' already, in this particular layer of the pyramid. 
I strongly recommend people to anticipate the extension will de facto be 
'.tif', or they'll find themselves releasing a version that needs to be 
updated before it's useful.


Best regards,

Joris Van Damme
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