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2007.07.03 18:37 "BigTIFF extension?", by Phil Harvey
2007.07.03 19:04 "Re: BigTIFF extension?", by Stephen Carlsen
2007.07.04 11:37 "Re: BigTIFF extension?", by Phil Harvey
2007.07.04 15:16 "Re: BigTIFF extension?", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.07.04 15:58 "Re: BigTIFF extension?", by Phil Harvey
2007.07.04 17:13 "16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Stephen Carlsen
2007.07.04 17:24 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Andy Cave
2007.07.04 17:26 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Andy Cave
2007.07.04 17:49 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Stephen Carlsen
2007.07.04 18:00 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.04 18:02 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.04 18:59 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.07.04 20:37 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Andy Cave
2007.07.04 21:40 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Stephen Carlsen
2007.07.05 10:56 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Andrey Kiselev
2007.07.05 17:58 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Stephen Carlsen
2007.07.05 18:30 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 19:29 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Stephen Carlsen
2007.07.06 01:46 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Chris Cox
2007.07.09 15:35 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Andrey Kiselev
2007.07.09 20:13 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Chris Cox
2007.07.10 07:29 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Andrey Kiselev
2007.07.10 18:54 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Chris Cox
2007.07.05 12:03 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Andy Cave
2007.07.05 12:57 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Andrey Kiselev
2007.07.05 15:08 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Andy Cave
2007.07.05 16:02 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Andrey Kiselev
2007.07.05 16:56 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Andy Cave
2007.07.05 13:45 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.05 14:26 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Andrey Kiselev
2007.07.05 16:02 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.07.05 16:30 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Joris Van Damme
2007.07.04 17:28 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Michael Wolf
2007.07.04 18:02 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Stephen Carlsen
2007.07.04 17:36 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Andrew Brooks
2007.07.04 11:53 "Re: BigTIFF extension?", by Phil Harvey
2007.07.03 19:09 "Re: BigTIFF extension?", by Bob Friesenhahn
2007.07.03 19:17 "Re: BigTIFF extension?", by Andy Cave

2007.07.04 18:00 "Re: 16-Bit-Per-Channel Lossless Compression", by Joris Van Damme

Stephen,

Stephen Carlsen wrote:
> Yup, I've actually done quite a bit of testing, and running LZW with
> predictor tends to compress 16-bit digital camera photographs very
> little, or even not at all. The problem, of course, is that the low
> order bits tend to look a lot like noise.
>
> I can post some sample files if you like. On one of my images from my
> Canon XTi, exported from DNG to uncompressed TIFF (using Lightroom),
> the uncompressed size is 57.7 MB, but is 68.8 MB with LZW (plus
> predictor) compression.
>
> Flate tended to generally do worse than LZW, and be a lot slower, in
> my testing.

Thing is, for photographic data the only real compression that works and 
make sense both, is lossy compression, is JPEG. Therefore, part of the 
answer to this problem ought to be more widespread and easier building of a 
12bit/channel JPEG compression.

That's doesn't cover the really lossy needs (though on photographic data 
there is not much such need), and it doesn't cover the really 16bit/channel 
need, so it's only part of the answer. But a vital part nonetheless.


Best regards,

Joris Van Damme
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