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1998.11.11 23:20 "Re: lzw decompression.", by Daniel Mccoy
1998.11.17 16:50 "Re: lzw decompression.", by Larry Jones
1998.11.18 13:50 "Re: lzw decompression.", by James Palo

1998.11.18 13:50 "Re: lzw decompression.", by James Palo

Some companies early on did try to take them to court and Unisys spent a
large sum to enforce the patent.  There is no justice , in the legal system
its who has the most money.  Most companies have just paid Unisys since it
was cheaper than fighting the patent.  For the record the patent states:


The compression of a serial character stream for transmission.

Which should not really apply to Gif or lzw reading of images.  But this is
a fight you will not win win Unisys.  Most companies have just not used the
lzw.

Lzw is not lz the w is Welch at Unisys added using a string table when
compressing.  There are a large number of patents on all sorts of variants of 
LZ, LZW and even the zlib compression is LZ77 which is supposed to be
patent free.  We do need a good lossless compression, but zlib used in the
PNG format is to complicated for general widespread use.

									Jim Palo

									Snowbound Software



At 11:50 AM 11/17/98 -0500, Larry Jones wrote:
>Adam Rybicki writes:
>> 
>> "Eric J. Schwertfeger" wrote:
>> > 
>> > The patent only covers compression, not decompression.
>> 
>> Sorry, but I don't think Unisys would agree with you:
>> http://corp2.unisys.com/LeadStory/lzwfaq.html
>
>It doesn't really matter whether Unisys agrees or not -- LZW
>decompression is *exactly* the same as LZ decompression, which is not
>patented.
>
>It's really too bad that Unisys can't make money any other way than by
>trying to extort license revenue out of an invalid patent.  It's also
>too bad that someone with deep pockets hasn't cared enough to take them
>to court and get it officially declared invalid.
>
>-Larry Jones
>
>Sheesh.  Who can fathom the feminine mind? -- Calvin
> 
Best regards
Jim Palo   <palo@snowbnd.com>
Snowbound Software tel: 617 630-9495  fax 617 630-0210
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