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2000.11.13 15:37 "Outstanding Libtiff Issues", by Frank Warmerdam
2000.11.14 00:58 "Re: Outstanding Libtiff Issues", by Tom Lane
2000.11.21 00:44 "Re: Outstanding Libtiff Issues", by Joris Van Damme

2000.11.14 00:58 "Re: Outstanding Libtiff Issues", by Tom Lane

Frank Warmerdam <warmerda@home.com> writes:
> http://bugzilla.remotesensing.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23

> http://www.ai.sri.com/cgi-bin/digitalearth/list.pl?dir=sfbay.oi

> The images at the URL above, in varying resolutions, are all tiled
> YCbCr TIFFs with JPEG compression.  Not all tools handle YCbCr TIFFs
> or tiled TIFFs (or both), so it would be nice if tiffcp did.  But
> despite its lack of diagnostics, when run on such an image with only
> the -s option, tiffcp produces a tiny file with mangled Y, Cb and Cr
> components (at least judging by XV's output).  For example, the
> 512x640 level-4 image shrinks from 240k to 33k and changes from a
> reasonable aerial shot (with black regions indicating no data) to a
> mostly teal image.

FWIW, I can't duplicate this problem using my current copy of libtiff
(CVS sources from mid-April 2000, not too current I fear).  The
downloaded images look a little funny in XV --- are the strips supposed
to be out of registration like that? --- but they look just about the
same after being run through tiffcp -s.  They do get a lot smaller,
which is not too surprising given that the originals were saved at
Q 100 :-( ... still another person who didn't read the libjpeg
documentation I guess.

> Since the tiles are (reported to be) 128x128 pixels, it should be
> possible to losslessly convert such an image into strips of 512x128
> pixels (or so I would imagine--I'm no TIFF expert).

Lossless reformatting of TIFF/JPEGs would be a major project; you'd
essentially need to rewrite tiffcp from scratch to make it deal with
DCT coefficient blocks instead of pixels.

			regards, tom lane
			organizer, Independent JPEG Group