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2006.11.24 10:23 "Windows HD Photo - any interest?", by Brad Hards
2006.11.24 16:02 "Re: Windows HD Photo - any interest?", by Andrey Kiselev
2006.11.24 21:53 "Re: Windows HD Photo - any interest?", by Brad Hards
2006.11.24 23:06 "Re: Windows HD Photo - any interest?", by Bob Friesenhahn
2006.11.25 01:53 "Re: Windows HD Photo - any interest?", by Brad Hards
2006.11.25 10:20 "Re: Windows HD Photo - any interest?", by Andrey Kiselev
2006.11.25 13:59 "Re: Windows HD Photo - any interest?", by Sachin Garg
2006.11.25 15:01 "Re: Windows HD Photo - any interest?", by Andrey Kiselev
2006.11.25 15:56 "Re: Windows HD Photo - any interest?", by Frank Warmerdam
2006.11.25 18:00 "Re: Windows HD Photo - any interest?", by Sachin Garg
2006.11.25 15:40 "Re: Windows HD Photo - any interest?", by Andrey Kiselev
2006.11.25 18:41 "Re: Windows HD Photo - any interest?", by Sachin Garg
2006.11.26 15:16 "Re: Windows HD Photo - any interest?", by Leonard Rosenthol
2006.11.26 19:59 "Re: Windows HD Photo - any interest?", by Brad Hards
2006.11.26 20:57 "Re: Windows HD Photo - any interest?", by Bob Friesenhahn

2006.11.25 15:01 "Re: Windows HD Photo - any interest?", by Andrey Kiselev

On 11/25/06, Sachin Garg wrote:
> This format has native support in Vista and MS will be doing its best
> to increase its use, so it will almost surely be important.

Yes, but that will be the future. I do not see any reason to help that
format to spread. It even does not support large files (> 4GB), so
what advantages it has over the old TIFF with except of the new codec?
When that format will become notable we can start implementing libtiff
support for it.

> From what I understand of the license, it should be possible to
> include the HDPhoto support in libtiff. Getting a reply from their
> team is a good idea.
>
> You seem to be reading the old version of the license when it was
> released just for evaluation, MS released the actual license terms
> later and the latest version of DPK has even more liberal terms.

Nope, I am reading the HDPhoto_eula.txt from the DPK distribution. It
has a number of clauses conflicting with libtiff distribution terms. I
can list some of them:

" * Third Party Distribution.  You may permit distributors of your
Licensed Products to copy and distribute the Distributable Code as
part of your Licensed Products, provided that your distributors are
legally prohibited from modifying, and do not modify, the
Distributable Code and/or the Licensed Product in a manner that causes
the Licensed Product (or any third party product in which the Licensed
Product is incorporated) to become non-compliant or incompatible with
the HD Photo 1.0 file format (a.k.a. the Windows Media Photo 1.0 file
format) as defined in the specification(s) provided in the software."

"ii. Distribution Requirements.  For any Distributable Code you
distribute, you must

 * distribute the Distributable Code only as part of a Licensed Product;

 * add significant primary functionality to the Distributable Code in
your Licensed Products;"

(BTW, what does it mean: "significant primary functionality"?)

"iii. Distribution Restrictions.  You may not

 * include Distributable Code in malicious, deceptive or unlawful
programs or products;

 * include Distributable Code in any program or product that is
non-compliant or incompatible with the HD Photo 1.0 file format
(a.k.a. the Windows Media Photo 1.0 file format) as defined in the
specification(s) provided in the software; or

 * modify or distribute the source code of any Distributable Code so
that any part of it becomes subject to an Excluded License.  An
Excluded License is one that requires, as a condition of use,
modification or distribution, that

 * the code be disclosed or distributed in source code form; or
 * others have the right to modify it."

Definitely, all these makes that source code not compatible with
libtiff license and generally non-free. So the only option remains is
an external linking.

Best regards,
Andrey

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Andrey V. Kiselev
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