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2006.09.15 12:38 "alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Anurag Singh
2006.09.15 15:49 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Gerben Vos
2006.09.15 17:37 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Bob Friesenhahn
2006.09.15 17:46 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Ed Grissom
2006.09.15 17:54 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Bob Friesenhahn
2006.09.16 20:01 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Joris Van Damme
2006.09.16 20:47 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Bob Friesenhahn
2006.09.16 21:50 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Joris Van Damme
2006.09.16 22:00 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Toby Thain
2006.09.16 22:18 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Joris Van Damme
2006.09.16 22:20 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Toby Thain
2006.09.16 22:38 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Joris Van Damme
2006.09.17 02:07 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Graeme Gill
2006.09.17 08:49 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Joris Van Damme
2006.09.17 09:03 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Joris Van Damme
2006.09.17 10:39 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Graeme Gill
2006.09.17 17:23 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Joris Van Damme
2006.09.18 01:35 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Graeme Gill
2006.09.18 09:40 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Joris Van Damme
2006.09.18 14:39 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Gerben Vos
2006.09.16 09:58 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Anurag Singh
2006.09.18 11:23 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Gerben Vos
2006.09.18 11:06 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Gerben Vos

2006.09.16 21:50 "Re: alpha in Grayscale or Palette", by Joris Van Damme

Bob,

Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
> PNG does not support associated (pre-multiplied) alpha.  It only
> supports unassociated (simple) alpha.  In this case, supporting alpha
> from within the colormap makes sense.  For example, you may assign one
> color to represent all completely transparent areas (like GIF).  TIFF
> does support unassociated (simple) alpha but the TIFF specification
> does not define how it should be applied to the image to obtain a
> viewable result.

I have another take on this. The difference between pre-multiplied
(associated) and ordinarry non-multiplied alpha, is merely a
multiplication (except when alpha indicates complete transparency).
That's just a maths operation. So in my mind, the fundamental quirck
about having alpha inside palette entries is independent of whether you
code it as pre-multiplied or non-multiplied. The simple fact remains
you're making fixed associations between colors and alpha, as opposed to
coding alpha as per actual pixel position. It's this simple fact that
makes a huge impact on the code required. For example, dithering from
full-color-with-alpha to palette-including-alpha is the challenge, and
whether those palette entries are coded pre-multiplied or non-multiplied
doesn't have an impact in this regard.


Best regards,

Joris Van Damme
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